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I think only Joachim among the current contributors may have an answer for this
I have noticed on the German forum a few people who have built modified engines have fitted Carillo conrods, is there any history of the standard Gilera rods breaking? I am a great believer in these rods have bought 8 of them for 2 big bore zzr1100 Kawasaki race engines, another zzr was "lost" when another make of rod broke
I have a good spare crank shaft without a rod, and have only seen crank and rod being sold together, again for Joachim were the Carillo rods a stock item or custom made?
Cheers
John

Kano Nordi wrote:

I have noticed on the German forum a few people who have built modified engines have fitted Carillo conrods, is there any history of the standard Gilera rods breaking?

No. The only case of a broken rod i can remember is the one of Olis heavily tuned race Saturno.
But it's cool to have a Carrillo rod
I also have one, or two.
In my case there is a reason why.
I own a big bore kit with a piston which has a narrow distance between the 'eyes' fo the pin. So i would have to make the original rods end smaller.
So i decided to get hands of one of this magic Carrillos. Was a hard work.
I got help from a guy of the german forum.
We have a Gilera dealer here (Volker Heim) who is till selling them (at least i think so). But the price (better said PRICE)
The importer (Grossewaechter)did not sell direct to private persons. So i got help from the person mentioned above.
But it was a big troubble which lasts for months. Grossewaechter is not very interested in selling single rods. At least it looks like this.
The person decided that this was the last time he bought something from them!
So... Heimracing, or ask Carrillo for help.

Here is the answer to my mail from 2006

Thank you for your interest in Carrillo rods. We do not stock rods for
Gilera engines but can make them. The current manufacturing time is
about 6 weeks. Your cost as an individual direct is $327.00 per rod.


As far as i know Grossewaechter did machine something on the rods they receive from USA. Therefore we had to wait another few months. But i am not shure.
What can i offer is the following.
The rods both are marked with #36179
The bearing halfs are marked
STD 4G CB-602AL
and CLEVITE 157
Good luck

ciao Joachim

PS Heim is still selling them

www.heimracing.eu/03c1989aa40dc7837/03c1989aa40d71c1c/index.php

470Euro each...

Now i remember why i have searched for an alternative source

Joachim wrote:

Kano Nordi wrote:

I have noticed on the German forum a few people who have built modified engines have fitted Carillo conrods, is there any history of the standard Gilera rods breaking?

What can i offer is the following.
The rods both are marked with #36179
The bearing halfs are marked
STD 4G CB-602AL
and CLEVITE 157
Good luck

ciao Joachim

PS Heim is still selling them

www.heimracing.eu/03c1989aa40dc7837/03c1989aa40d71c1c/index.php

470Euro each...

Now i remember why i have searched for an alternative source

Do not try Falicon, when one broke in my Kawasaki it almost cut the crankcase and cylinder block in half after about 5 hours running time and were the same price as Carillo at gbp200.00 from TTS in the UK

Many thanks Joachim for the info I will make some inquiries from TTS and direct to Carillo to see what comes up, when they produce something none standard as a 1 off it has to be expensive, for the Kawasaki it is a standard in their catalogue
Cheers
John

Hi, I recently purchased a Carrillo rod direct from Carrillo for my Saturno. It was a one off and the price was 340 UK Pounds.
The bike is running a Saturno bottom end with a Nordwest barrel and head. I'm using a Suzuki TL1000s piston purchased from JE Pistons as I was concerned about the weight difference between the Saturno and Nordwest pistons and the vibration which may have been caused. I appreciate I could have used the Nordwest parts to balance the piston weight but as I intend to race the bike I wished to reduce weight rather than add it.
Just to confuse matters the JE piston compression height is 2.5mm higher than the Nordwest piston. If I'd used the standard rod length I would have a lower compression ratio! So I completed the necessary Carrillo forms , forwarded it off to Carrillo and approximately 10 weeks later the rod arrived. Be aware the rod doesn't come with big end bearings but I sourced a set from Bob Wright in the UK.
I dealt with Richard Batchelor, Carrillo Rod Sales Manager, Irvine, California who was extremely helpful. I would certainly recommend the firm and my only connection with the business is as a satisfied customer.
Hope this assists.

Reducing any reciprocating or rotating weight is always good, I've used JE and also Wisco pistons in big bore conversions and had good results.
John