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E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8375

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Hi guys, any recommendations on the new petrol/ ethanol fuels which we are being forced to use in our older machines. As far as I can find out there are no local outlets for older style super unleaded within 30 miles of my home address. I imagine that I’ll be able to continue to use E5 and ensure carbs are drained at the end of each run to avoid gumming up carb Jets etc. Any advise?

E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8377

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I have been using E5 for the last year and had no issues so far. The only thing I do is close the fuel tap every time I park the bike.
I am more concerned about the fuel tank on the long run. I've heard that E5 and specially E10 do react with plastic fuel tanks... But don't know with which types of plastic....
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E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8378

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E5 ate my Saturno - well, the carb float, anyway. The original Dellorto floats (some sort of plastic material) were eaten away and swollen to the point they wedged in the float chamber. Eurocarb were able to supply an E5 proof replacement. I'll find out in due couse whether it is E10 proof! The fibre washer between the tank and tap also disintegrated. This may have been due to E5, I don't know - it could have been due to old age!

E5/E10 causes some plastic tanks to swell. It does affect 1990s & 2000s Guzzis and Aprilias with plastic tanks, so it's pretty certain Gileras will be affected as well. They become difficult to remove/refit as the rear mount not longer lines up properly. I've left a Guzzi tank dry for more than 12 months and it did eventually shrink again. The fuel also permeates through the tank - there's no visible liquid loss on the outside as the process is very slow, so any fuel reaching the outside has plenty of time to vaporise. However, this does damage painted tanks, causing blistering of the paint.

The Nordie/RC600 carb has brass floats, so won't be so prone to damage (but maybe not immune) and the Nordie tank isn't painted, so fuel permeation won't be a problem.

If you've got plastic fuel lines, you may need to replace them with ethanol-proof rubber pipes. I've experienced plastic fuel lines disintegrating - quite literally - on several strimmers & hedgetrimmers and warnings have already been issued about using E10 in garden machinery, because of its severe effect on some plastic piping.

Given the Nordie/RC carb has an easily accesible drain screw, it seems sensible to drain the float chamber if the bike is not going to be used for even a short while. The shelf life of E5 can be as little as 8 weeks, so I will also be draining the tank and leaving the fuel cap off if the bike is going to be laid up!

E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8379

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It may be worthwhile using a fuel stabiliser additive if you're not going to run through a tankful in less than a couple of months.

E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8381

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i have never had any problems with E5 fuel on the Nordie.
And i never did something special. No draining the carb, no drying the tank :)
But i never have tried E10.

ciao Joachim
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E5/10 Fuels -Unleaded 2 years 8 months ago #8384

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No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationMy Nordy had been sat in my garage since 2019, BUT I'd used a fuel stabiliser.
The reason it was sat was due to an ongoing misfire at 4250 rpm...
I decided to try once again to fix it and fired the bike up- which started almost immediately as usual, but fuel was leaking from the reserve tap. I ordered a replacement online, and although a direct replacement, it came with old style o-rings which will not be E5/10 fuel compliant () .
I decided therefore to replace both seals on my original tap with Viton ? FKM ethanol resistant rings which only cost pence... All ok so far but I will continue adding fuel stabiliser to my tank (www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01FOHSEEM/r...02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).
I also replaced the o-ring seal on the fuel tap but the rubber manifold in the middle is probably going to cause issues in the future as it will undoubtedly swell at some point and will possibly cause fuel starvation too.
Incidentally, it turns out the misfire at a specific RPM was fixed by removing the immobiliser I'd had on since around 2004.
The problem I have now is that with a fully open throttle up a relatively steep hill, the bike missed as if there's not enough fuel, but along the straights feels as strong as ever... (fuel tap manifold??).
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